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| Debra Charron |
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| Aegyptia Elvehjem wrote: |
| I think in that case there was already an involved RP going on, you needed the consent of the ongoing already involved RPers. |
Actully I was working a multi-patient RP at that time and running my digital behind off so yes..there was RP going on.
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| Mordag McCallen |
| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| Nenraa Huffhines wrote: |
The MCMC has always been a no combat zone... a safe area so to speak.
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It is sad, but its true.
Yes, the fact that some areas are magicaly peacefull is getting me too, but nothing I can do about it aside of stating it.
What is getting question in my head is if someone who is involved in RP scene with the wounded as enemy gets into the MCMC as a part of the scene, is he forced to stop violence against his target, or is he allowed to rejoin the RP inside at all as it is part of his scene too? I mean, without the violator, there would be no scene in the hospital.
Another question is how much right a faction member of the wounded has to step into the roleplay, all the more if it is superior of the wounded? Because such a scene logicaly involves such a person should they emerge on the scene.
I would say in joining ongoing RP general sanity rule aplies first before consent rule. Joining already messy scene (OOC messy) is just like pouring gasoline into fire. Trying to join any scene you encounter is generaly bad idea, or joining and being too active in it.Simply because it will get OOC stuck.
But what would really be best if we managed to create the protection for medical centers IC by joining forces for such a purpose. It would quiet all the voices crying because of invisible barrier.
Simple thing, you violated peace, you are no longer eligable to receive anymore treatment from the place. On contrary, people would hunt for you and hurt you.
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| Debra Charron |
| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Mordag McCallen wrote: |
It is sad, but its true.
Yes, the fact that some areas are magicaly peacefull is getting me too, but nothing I can do about it aside of stating it.
What is getting question in my head is if someone who is involved in RP scene with the wounded as enemy gets into the MCMC as a part of the scene, is he forced to stop violence against his target, or is he allowed to rejoin the RP inside at all as it is part of his scene too? I mean, without the violator, there would be no scene in the hospital.
Another question is how much right a faction member of the wounded has to step into the roleplay, all the more if it is superior of the wounded? Because such a scene logicaly involves such a person should they emerge on the scene.
I would say in joining ongoing RP general sanity rule aplies first before consent rule. Joining already messy scene (OOC messy) is just like pouring gasoline into fire. Trying to join any scene you encounter is generaly bad idea, or joining and being too active in it.Simply because it will get OOC stuck.
But what would really be best if we managed to create the protection for medical centers IC by joining forces for such a purpose. It would quiet all the voices crying because of invisible barrier.
Simple thing, you violated peace, you are no longer eligable to receive anymore treatment from the place. On contrary, people would hunt for you and hurt you. |
| Debra Charron wrote: |
If you want the MCMC to stay open and "public"...then maybe all the factions who use it should take a vested interest in "policing" people who violate that place.
The real-life precedent I am aware of is Somalia. A medical clinic was opened in a spot the bordered the zones controlled by three rival warlords. The reason this clinic was able to function when others failed was that the leadership negotiated with the warlords to keep it open to treat their people, so long as they helped protect the neutrality of the clinic. VERY bad things happened to people who violated the clinic, and id didn't happen often......and the clinic stayed open till the foundation that ran it ran out of funds.
This would be a RP-opportunity worthy of Midian, and would present some fun times for anyone who wanted to take on outwitting the "guardian" factions for the sake of being violent in the MCMC.
Under this plan, the MCMC is "Open" and "Public" - but the docs hav protection.
Also..this is Midian......no angels here. It might be a BAD THING to be dragged to MCMC unconscious for treatment after being identified as someone who's been harassing the clinic. That would be up to the individual doc tho.....but this is Midian. |
I completely agree
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| Charles Noble |
| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Sanity versus consent..
well in the situation you mentioned in which a party started something in public then ran to the sanctury of a building with no locked doors..
well yes, you should be persued.
However "interupting " a scene you are not part of is generally bad form not to mention rude..
If you were part of the scene at the start then of course you continue through santuary till you hit an obsticle like a locked door which are not magical but lets just say lined with adamantum or some shit, cuz hell... we have indestructable robots , why not adamantum doors....
hell why not magical barriers, I mean "If you are uber awesome " shouldn't defences be "Uber awesome" as well?
*shrugs*
live by the sword die by sword. Damn right I have "uber defences" that only affect "Uber people" oh no! If a person can be "god" like, then "god" like defences can exist too.
I live by consent  I'm a winner 
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| Mr.Crispy |
| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| Mordag McCallen wrote: |
| Nenraa Huffhines wrote: |
The MCMC has always been a no combat zone... a safe area so to speak.
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It is sad, but its true.
Yes, the fact that some areas are magicaly peacefull is getting me too, but nothing I can do about it aside of stating it.
What is getting question in my head is if someone who is involved in RP scene with the wounded as enemy gets into the MCMC as a part of the scene, is he forced to stop violence against his target, or is he allowed to rejoin the RP inside at all as it is part of his scene too? I mean, without the violator, there would be no scene in the hospital.
Another question is how much right a faction member of the wounded has to step into the roleplay, all the more if it is superior of the wounded? Because such a scene logicaly involves such a person should they emerge on the scene.
I would say in joining ongoing RP general sanity rule aplies first before consent rule. Joining already messy scene (OOC messy) is just like pouring gasoline into fire. Trying to join any scene you encounter is generaly bad idea, or joining and being too active in it.Simply because it will get OOC stuck.
But what would really be best if we managed to create the protection for medical centers IC by joining forces for such a purpose. It would quiet all the voices crying because of invisible barrier.
Simple thing, you violated peace, you are no longer eligable to receive anymore treatment from the place. On contrary, people would hunt for you and hurt you. |
Yeah it doesnt make much sense for the attacker to stop his assault at the MC doors.. But this isnt always an issue simply cause of the following....
What happens alot now is all rp is ignored and people just tp from faction base to faction base ALL the time having a friend doing the tping..biapassing any potential danger in between. So yes it ruins overall rp and frankly in this city it makes thing seem calm and tranquil. Why should anyone be scared in midian? ;) |
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| Solrana Zagato |
| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| Alright... That is ONE case I won't get pissy about. If some idiot tries to use the rules to say they're safe and to hide in a safe zone, public building have security eject them or pursue them as long as you don't damage the surrounding building or interfere with other RP. Or in an extreme case call an admin.Taking advantage of rules is NOT good form either. |
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| Jade Steele |
| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Faction HQ |
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| Satomi Ashbourne wrote: |
| Why are there special rules protecting faction HQs? I'm not challenging it, I'm just curious about why normal OOC Consent rules don't cover it. |
To answer the original question ....
The main reason for this is because in reality a faction would not so easly be stormed and taken over as can be done by a few ambitious people in RP, especially while others are offline. Early on we had people rushing into factions claiming to take them over, conquer, close them down etc. When in reality such a thing would not realistically be possible. It became clear that such a thing would not work. Midian City is not about competition or grinding to level up your XP. It is about freeform roleplay and creating stories.
This of course is not to say that attacking or even taking over a faction is completely out of the question. But given the freeform nature of the roleplay, unless it is a part of an official sanctioned RP story, such a thing must be always be loosely arrange between faction leaders in advance to avoid misunderstanding and godmodding. |
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