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| Kc Cuttita |
 Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: Thoughts about a victims faction/group |
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I'd like to know what others think about starting a victims faction in Midian. Not a real faction like the others where they'd need a base or headquarters, but a group I guess with chosen leadership and leader to help organize and guide newer players.
I don't know what people think about victims, or how they go about finding the one they might be looking for, but I think having a victims faction might be good for several reasons.
#1 It would give the victims a hierarchy so to speak to communicate better with the other factions. It'd allow the victims to form up as a group and perhaps bring input to the factions. I understand that there is a victims title for Midian, but all that does is allow someone to walk around letting people know that they're willing to play the part of a victim and to tell you the truth not many people wear the titles around Midian but they do wear faction titles as they should and appear to be proud to wear them.
#2 It'd give the victims a support group to which they'd receive notices of parts needed for roleplay by the factions through the use of group notices. This would allow the factions to have enough victims to be in place if they need more then one or two. Also these victims would be a better fit for the roles that would be needed as they'd answer the notice and already be prepared for some of what is expected of them and be better victims for that particular role.
Imagine a gunfight amongst two factions where there could be several bystanders willing to be shot by stray bullets or some that just happen to come by at the right instant to "take a bullet" as an unwilling human shield? Someone handy that could just be grabbed and held in front of you while someone else is firing a clip at you from their ak-47.
#3 It'd give the victims other people to learn from. Yeah being a victim isn't that hard to be, but learning how to roleplay one is something that would enhance the roleplay for everyone in Midian. We, the victims, would know who eachother are and could work with eachother to make us better in our roles. The better we are, the better it would make the whole scene.
I realize that there is a NPC group and it was a great idea. Matter of fact it was because of that group that got me thinking about having a victims faction. That group would still work as it does now and it serves a fantastic function here in Midian. But it doesn't go far enough as it doesn't give the regular victim roleplayer the chance to play themselves.
Not all roleplay for victims would have to go through the victims faction. I understand some people enjoy playing both victim and victimizer and that too is good. I also understand that some victims are already playing fairly key parts in some factions roleplay and this too is good for them. But the coordination that could be given through having several victims present, on scene could spice up a lot of roleplays and also give those of us that play the part of the victim the oppurtunity to show our abilities and hopefully lead to more oppurtunities for roleplay as more and more people would see us play our parts.
It could also lead to more roleplay for everyone in that it would open up ideas for more roleplay especially if say someone wanted to plant an explosive and cause carnage somewhere. Faction people wouldn't have to be injured and could be nearby, safe and sound to come rushing to the sound of the explosion and then deal with the mess without having to first go to the hospital for medical treatment themselves.
Another way it would help is it could bring a lot more roleplay for the medical facilities and they could know in advance when they'll be needed instead of being caught midscene themselves.
Anyhow it's just something to think about and debate. If you do decide to follow through on it please don't make me the leader. I'm not a good leader but now and then I come up with good ideas I hope.
Please understand that I'm asking for your input and if there's already a group that does coordinate with predators in such a way I'd love to hear about it. |
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| Artika |
| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I think there could be a role for a victims faction/group, which would be OOC I think the way it's described.
One thing it might do is differentiate a little between the many people who wear the Midian City group tag. Very few people wear the titlers now, I suspect because they don't want to be labeled as a noob to Midian LOL - at least that was how I felt when I was new here.
Some of the tags on the titler could be incorporated into the group titles - for example resident, deviant, victim and so on. This way, it would send a clearer signal of what the person is aiming for, and also perhaps give the group a wider appeal than if it is associated with victims only, which some people might not be comfortable with. |
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| Charles Noble |
| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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there is indeed such a group, well three technically.
There is the Midian NPC's which is not "just" a victim group but rather a group for "throw away " characters. NPC = Non Player Character ((an old roleplay term for gamesmastered games)) but Non "permanent" character could also apply.
Then there are the victim groups "Midian Hard and Nasty" and "Hard Midian" both which exist for victims seeking abusers and the like.
The resources exist, Looking at the membership and relevent titles might help you to discover who is an abuser.
Theres also "Midian Dating Agency" which exists to help people who are mutually bored seek one another out and see what rp they can get started.
There is also a site that exists to allow victims and abusers to get together and i believe a "wearable touchbox" incorperating a kink list was on the cards at somepoint.
But I don't see any reason why you shouldn't create a pure victim group if its just a group for victims. Wouldn't say its a faction par say, more of an ooc group for helping victims and abusers co-ordinate. The hard and nasty and hard midian groups co-ordinate on a more "one to one" basis.
I don't know how useful the group would be for all factions, some would rather their raids and plans not be known till the last moment ((thanks to those pesky vigilantee groups that come up and act on ooc info)) It also comes down to "Spoiler" warnings. I think theres a few people not know things are going to happen days in advance and would like to be caught on the hop. We don't want to preplan "everything" but by the same token sometimes a little co-ordination is needed.
So I'd say make it, do it, start your plan and see what happens. Trial and error the best way really.
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| Kc Cuttita |
| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the words of support Charles. Maybe we can bounce around some ideas here that could make the group benficial for all the factions.
One thing I'd like to see it do is be more assertive in communication with the various factions.
Take MPD for one. When they do an investigation, there's no reason why they couldn't do a more or less round up at times also in their investigation. Or victims could be already at a spot where they plan to do a raid and be brought in for interrogation.
We could be set in place inside one of the clubs say if someone or a faction wanted to leave a little message to the owner of the club or the faction leaders.
I think with some coordination it could be very benificial, but it'd have to work both ways. Plus not ruin the orginal roleplay that would be ongoing which I think is something that you touched on about the using ooc knowledge as ic and just jumping in. That'd be wrong to do and I entirely agree with you there.
I guess what I'd really like to know is that if I did form a group it wouldn't be a group of one, just me, nor would it be something that couldn't come to fruition. I guess I'm looking more for support and guidance as it's something I've never done before and also looking for someone that would help lead the group. Also I wouldn't want the group to step on another groups toes which is why I brought it up here, to make sure the idea seemed sound to others and find out if there is an interest in it. |
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| Marina Storaro |
| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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It's a really good suggestion, KC, I think there's clear stuff embedded there that can be addressed.
Basically it's not a faction that would be set up, but an OOC interest group. Since as Charles pointed out, we have those -- which basically serve some, but not all the purposes you seek: notices of victims being wanted/needed, or the other way around .. and also a tag to wear, like the 'old' specific Midian victim tags that delineated what type of rp someone was looking for.
I think what can help is those who are forwarding an rp, storyline, etc., to actively make it available for victims who want to be involved, be 'there' as you say.
And mentors, and admins, I'm sure, would be happy to be a support source. I'm happy to sit and share thoughts and such if you would like, just find me in world and shoot an IM! |
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| Kc Cuttita |
| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks Marina. I'm not really sure how to proceed, how to find others that feel the same or would be interested so I could use all the help I could get. |
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| Atmlady Alcott |
| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Kc, it's always good to see you posting and putting forth ideas. I think what you are stating does have a place and the next time you are on let me know and I'll help all I can getting it implemented.
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| Chandra Meehan |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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I think the idea is in general good, but one thought I would like to add, speaking strictly from a personal point of view: I am constantly struggeling with free slots of my groups, because as a faction leader I do need a shitload of them. So I would have a serious issue if I wanted to join another group. ;-P and I think many might have that problem. so I am in the NPC group, the RP Achademy, Dating Agency and Midian Hard and Nasty Group, cause I really think they are brilliant ideas to spark RP, involve new players and get whatever-character you need. Anyway, I did miss out on a few other groups that I think are a good idea already simply because I need to evaluate which other group I would leave for that....
So from that aspect, I think it would make more sense to include your idea into one of the existing groups. For example I could imagine creating a new role for you in the say hard&nasty group and call it 'chief victim' (*laughs* yes I am randomly making up titles, don't take those serious) - In any way, the group is included in the interest group notecard already, and there could be a stronger emphasize to promote it to people wanting to play the victim. So, the 'chief victim' would be given as well rights to send groupNotes and with that could inform others about stuff... and the abusers would get an idea of the issues as well, and maybe function as 'mentors' for scenes then too. Just a thought.  It seams easier to me than having to join 5 groups and sending 5 IMs in case a victim is needed.
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