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| J8 Skall |
 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: SL Documentary |
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Beside a very evry brief shot of a Midian towerblock at the start, we don't feature. But this is interesting, shows the potential gains and risks of the Second Life we lead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b008vrht.shtml?filter=category%3A100005&scope=iplayercategories&start=1&version_pid=b008vrg5
Not the most informed or balanced documentary. But worth a watch while it's still avaliable on BBC iPlayer.
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| Charles Noble |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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omg what awful avatars..
yes I'm an asshole. |
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| Affrika |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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"Sorry, this programme is only available to play in the UK"
oh thats some bullshit 
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| J8 Skall |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Ahh sorry, didn't realise it was just for us.
And yeah the AV's suck, but if they had imagination enough to make unique ones they wouldn't be poncing around in clubs and shit, they'd be in our fair city.
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| Affrika |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Whats the vid about? can you break it down for us? Im curious.
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| Charles Noble |
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about virtual affairs...
two points. Married american woman and english guy in sl
couple of brits who one of whom was married and meet in sl..
one affair worked, the other didn't |
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| J8 Skall |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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To me the interesting bit wasnt about the affairs, I couldnt give a flying fuck about if the woman's life sucks and all, and frank;y thought the American guy being 'cheated' on had a huge amount of dignity.
To me the interest was more in the media perception and understanding of Second Life. It's a topic I'm interested in, and one that must reasonate with a fair few people who play in the sim.
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| Mordag McCallen |
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In my humble opinion it is us, roleplayers, as minority, who come to play SL as game rather than real second life are those who dont understand SL. *chuckles*
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| Affrika |
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People who make 'new' lives in SL scare me!
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| Mordag McCallen |
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| People who make 'new' lives in SL scare me! |
See? You have no clue what SL is all about. It is freakin' matrix, baby!
All you need to do is sit by your computer, feed and shit. Food delivered to doors, money for rent made in SL. FU real world.
In a way roleplayers are the same, only with difference that we seem to know the line of fiction and reality. After all, majority of people on SL has no idea why would they bother themselves with somethig like OOC abd IC, no? Or IC and IRL.
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| Chandra Meehan |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Mordag McCallen wrote: |
| In my humble opinion it is us, roleplayers, as minority, who come to play SL as game rather than real second life are those who dont understand SL. *chuckles* |
I'd sign that blindly! *laughs*
at least I don't have a clue why I'd need a second 'family', a second 'job', a second 'boss', a second 'home' (well ok.. that answers cause I would not have to clean it... guess that's an advantage), then probably second 'TV evenings with friends'? hmmmmm... really.. I have no idea what it is one does outside of Midian besides those who are here for business (and these at least have a valid reason)... Or I'll NEVER understand why people would want to live in these mostly horrible sims with these bad-graphic adds daily in front of their noses and even worse the noob-AVies all around.... GOOOOOSH... but well.
Too bad we can't see the video-clip, but I guess no harm done, most likely there'll be like 50 of these by the end of next month anyway. *cuckles*
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| Rin Tae |
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yes .. I mean .. why do you build a RL home in SL and put waste your prims on things like a kitchen or a bathroom? .. why not building something strange and RL impossible instead? Using some creativity and fantasy.
On the other hand, there are things outside RP .. for example, I´m active in political groups and discussions. For people active in this field, SL is a wonderfull tool for communicating with each other, but also for creation of exhibits and even protests that .. like the IBM strike last year .. can have an impact on RL events.
The only problem is, that too many people see SL as a game .. or start to take the L in SL to seriously and do the same as in RL. Maybe I was just to often asked by newbs (the intersting thing is .. mostly by germans) the one great question: ´Where do I find a job?´ .. hmm .. I think repeating RL is easier then thinking of something new. |
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| MarkkoOndricek |
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People do what they know, and it takes a moment to shake off reality sometimes to do something you normally wouldn't do.
I slipped from it eventually, I mean I own an art gallery, and I have a sky house with no possible structure to support the floor above it, which can be a rough concept for an architect....but i saw the light, no building code! so i went wild, unfortunately I am a lazy builder, i try to keep work at work.
in retrospect to quote you Mordag;
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| In my humble opinion it is us, roleplayers, as minority, who come to play SL as game rather than real second life are those who dont understand SL. *chuckles* |
My Roleplay life is my Second Life, I have seen a lot of SL, and Midian is the Second Life, that seems to fit me best. So it can be seen as point of preference really.
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| Charles Noble |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Theres far too many people who put empahisis on it as being a "second" life rather than a toy.
It's kind of like a drug, if you could see the people in the documentary who were "second lifers" ((as opposed to us roleplayers)) they had that kinda glazed over expression and were living in an alternative reality.
When you "live" in second life
your health will suffer
Your realationships in the real world will suffer
your financial state will suffer
So far second life has offered you a place where you can maybe if lucky alliviate the financial state and even advertise it
"So and So left their real life job and now makes all their money on second life"
Relationships they can "fix"
"so and so got married and partnered and now are having a wonderful virtual love affair"
Health? they can't fix that one yet.. but the fact is i'm wondering how many people will suffer carpal tunnel, sleep deprevation, bad diet because of taking second life far too seriously..
Those who "live" in second life also seem to shut out the real world.. strive to work hard to make their "second life" utopian, taking the focus away on what they might actually be able to do in the real world.
Some of us roleplayers can do the same, but we do on genral have the "reality calling button"
Which enables us to say... oh wait it's ooc or real life info..and dosn't affect my "Game"
I always call second life a "game" yes its populated by real people.. but at the end of the day I choose to play the "game" with people who understand that's what it is. |
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| Affrika |
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| Mordag McCallen wrote: |
| Affrika wrote: |
| People who make 'new' lives in SL scare me! |
See? You have no clue what SL is all about. It is freakin' matrix, baby!
All you need to do is sit by your computer, feed and shit. Food delivered to doors, money for rent made in SL. FU real world.
In a way roleplayers are the same, only with difference that we seem to know the line of fiction and reality. After all, majority of people on SL has no idea why would they bother themselves with somethig like OOC abd IC, no? Or IC and IRL. |
My only real online fix is SL (which i play at work to pass the time) and WoW (which i don't rp in i just kill shit). I am a moer intreactive rp type... LARP and abut 3 ongoing TT games. I just don't get the people who build homes, get married and have babies and they are not roleplaying. they stop interacting with real life and center on their 'lives' in SL... WTF? I just don't get it at all.
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