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| Tres Asbrink |
 Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: The year Midian is set in. |
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| Had a question i'm sure has had threads about, but i can;t find them when i do a search for them. So i will just ask and hope some one will answer. The question is in Midian has a offical year been set or is it still 2020-2050. Basicly what ever people want to use in there rp it is, or has an offical one benn set. I'm writeing some stuff up for the faction and there will be days and dates and whatnot. Don't want to write something then some one be yeah its 2025 and i was born in 2000 how is it 2030..So if there are any adims around that can answer this question for me that would be a big help. |
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| Golyth Carillon |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the general thought that most of us have shared when this topic was discussed before was 50-50 on an actual date. Most of the population say the year is 2035 while others say it's 2025. Typically 10 years isn't going to make much difference but in Midian... 10 years is a long ass time.
Hope that helps some what. I'm sure Jay, Charles, Deb, Aegy, or any of the other long timers can give a more clearer answer.
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| Oceania Goodliffe |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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The exact year was never actually set as many people have dates in their background stories already ... plus we have had children age to adulthood since the Midian started while others have not aged
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| Charles Noble |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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different head stones say different things, newspaper dates are not consistant..
i'd say its 20 ((tens)) 8
if we were going on phillip k dick bout 40 years from now..
2048?
now its interesting as obviously there are dates in midian. such as a febuary 29th this year, meaning what ever it is it's a leap year... so closest leap year to 2048?
2008 the present obviously not here.
2012
2016
2020
2024 really before this date is kinda too soon.
2028
2032 would say the third world war occurred round hereish
2036
2040 ended hereish
2044
2048 Seems bang on. for blade runner expectations and a coincidental leap year
2052
2056
2060 seems just a lil too far away. even though its only 52 years. But seeing how much changed since 1950's till the end of the 20th century..its not unreasonable to say that 52 years could accomadate all those wonderful technological advancements.
what ever it is, it's a leap year and those years are contenders after 48 i would say
as only the characters age in midian and the dates don't change and events are scheduled on dates based in reality, thats my method.. maybe...
after the war there was a population shortage and there were baby boomer experiments. to rebuild the devestated world and repopulate it. So people were given experiments for shorter gestation and rapid growth..those kids that don't "grow up immediately" obviously never had parents or grandparents that were tinkered with..
the tinkered kids is how i play it, sorry but cuz some kid ages 2o years does not mean that I do. Cuz otherwise i'd be toothless on a rocking chair in front of the horsemen by now.
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for the good of keeping consistant if we were to choose 2048 then coincidently leap years would be the same as ours. and we would only need to add 40 to the current real year.
that's if we were to. 28 and 68 are the only two other years that would match 2008 for leap yearness and keeping the last digit the same as the current year.
28 too soon in my opinion and 68 just feels too far.
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| J8 Skall |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Tough question, I put it in the 2050s with my Black Star background due to the tech level, presence of nekos and the fact people grow so quickly it's untrue, and it puts it in Blade Runner* territory.
It's a long time, I'll warrant, but when I started inthe sim, I put that at about 2050, base point, when the sim opened. Since then I guestimate about 6-8 years real time has passed, although it seems people would ove there to have been about 40 for the sake of super kids.
Also, in BR background there are colonies on other planets and we may have made the jump outside our solar system, that's nowhere near imminent, even after war technologies, which often give massive jumps in tech levels.
So yeah I put it int he 2050s, Black Star recruitment posters say it was founded in 2054, and that was a while back in roleplay.
Really though it's another question we don't know, and till we have an offical backgroung made we wont.
* For those that dunno, Philip K Dick wrote Bladre Runner, so thats Charles reference.
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| Tres Asbrink |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Why thank you everyone for the input, its good to know. When i was reading the note card and did my own math. I came up with 2050:) But at the same time 2035 sounds good to of course i say the war would had to be around 2010 to 2014 with about ten or fifteen years of recovry after it. For there to be one world goverment and companys takeing over everyone's life. But thats just my view and is no way better then anyone else. I was just working on some UAC stuff and new flyers. Just wanted the dates on them to work for the city. |
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| Charles Noble |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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ya know i don't think it would hurt for there just to be a simple timeline, don't think it would distract from the sim, I'll talk to jade bout it.
something like
year : Eastern Block and Western Block type alliences start ((like ww1))
year: Dis country invades that
Year : both blocks go to war
year: both sides experiment with new genetic technologies and mechanoids first used in battle.
Year : end of the war populations devestated repouplulation using sped up gestation and growth techniques used, an uneasy peace tween both sides of the great war.
Year : current
would certiantly answer the question of the year and explain those kids that go from infancy to adult hood quickly.
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| Golyth Carillon |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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2048-50 sounds about right all things considered honestly. The 2035 number was the one handed out by most when I started RP'ing in Midian at the begining of last year.
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| Atmlady Alcott |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I actually had a young fellow who used to work for me do a timeline just for my own personal knowledge. Not being a "futuristic" game player as many of you are, I asked someome who was.
Of course he had to factor in growth of children, aging, etc, but also advancements in technology which is the hard part because it can not be compared to anything in prior history.
He told me, that going on the state of people (and YES, I allowed him to witness Midian and the residents) and also made him pour over forums, notecards, etc considering weaponery and what else we are claiming and he stated that the best he could get it would be approx 2042-2045 from the technical standpoint, BUT probably 2055-2060 from the RESIDENTS STANDPOINT as "residents" evolving into different forms (neko's, etc) would be more generational and take a while longer.
Of course, this all means nothing, just something I kinda wanted to know.
As for me, it makes no difference and I am perfectly happy in any era or year, as everyone knows Auntie is timeless  |
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| J8 Skall |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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I use a timeline for wars I made up for my legion character, its basically has it kicking off int he Middle East and escalating, though if we do anything, I think a full Midian background, where evrything fits, whould be written up in one big project, addressing everything, big job, but if your gonna do soemhting, do it properly.
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| Fu |
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| J8 Skall wrote: |
| * For those that dunno, Philip K Dick wrote Bladre Runner, so thats Charles reference. |
Actually, technically....he wrote "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" which was renamed "Bladerunner" when the Movie came out. Either way, two brilliant but divergent master works.
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| October Hush |
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For my storyline, it doesn't really matter what the year is exactly. I left it vague specifically because the year hadn't quite been nailed down yet. I figured it was somewhere between 2025 and 2060. It would be nice to have an "official" decision on the year, whatever it is, though. For what it's worth, I think what Charles wrote seems to be pretty plausible.
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| Lancer Oldrich |
| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Point out that a frequent, and quite often used solution in history, was simply tying the method of telling time to a particular *big impact* event (re: CE and BCE... obviously), and proceeding from there. It has the benefit of effectively erasing whatever happened before for whomever is the TPTB atm, and avoids the whole, well we've passed that date RL... now what?
(Eyes any number of Sci Fi series that came out in the 70's that stated that events would be happening... um ... now. They're quite funny to watch in syndication)
Likewise, tying your background to big, historical events IC, as supposed to "time" (what is this but a way to measure the space between big events?) makes it somewhat easier to adapt, should someone find it necessary.
It is understandable though why many would want to have a rough projection of what the "actual" time the events in the sim take place.
Just a thought though.  |
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| Charles Noble |
| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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true,
could say post world war 3 but we still get the people born before the war using current dating systems such as vampires and what not.
I dare say in 40 years time second life will have given way to another game anyhow, really don't see myself at 74 playing in midian heh.
actually don't see myself at 74 at all. christ... only 40 years? *panics* ok need to breed here people, taking numbers..
but back on the topic, i think really saying post ww3 is the system in place already. while thats good for making dates on offical documents..
dosn't help pre ww3 characters know how old they are.
but yeah. I see the point of how it makes documents easier. but we would still need to agree on how many years after the war it is.
So I think just using the traditional era dates we have makes it a easier pill all round to swallow rather than a document friendly one.
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| Stephan Nephilim |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm glad I found this thread before I asked almost the exact same question. So I presume the majority will not blast me if I RP somewhere between 2055 and 2065 leaving it as vague as possible. |
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